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Forum Name: History of the Buon Fresco
Topic ID: 6
Message ID: 3
#3, Lime versus Gypsum for Fresco
Posted by Ilia on 25-Mar-01 at 00:20 AM
In response to message #2
>Stale beer
>was actually added to lime
>plaster as a "sizing" agent
>- this would be similar
>to adding gum arabic, it
>acts like a glue, helping
>it stick to walls and
>also forming a "skin" on
>the surface to make sure
>the gypsum is properly hydrated.
>
>
Hi Gary!

I hope you do not mind, but I had to clarify this, about the gypsum. It might be confusing.

Gypsum plasters are used for ornamentation elements and such.

Gypsum is a big enemy of the fresco, fresco plaster should contain nothing but lime putty and sand (or sand and marble dust, volcanic "sand"). Fresco needs calcium oxide not calcium sulfate. Lime, in Italian called "calce" - calcium.

GYPSUM - : a widely distributed mineral consisting of hydrous calcium sulfate that is used esp. as a soil amendment and in making plaster of paris.

sulfates - : a salt or ester of sulfuric acid
salt is a death sentence for fresco.


LIME - : a caustic highly infusible solid that consists of calcium oxide often together with magnesium oxide, that is obtained by calcining forms of calcium carbonate (as shells or limestone), and that is used in building (as in mortar and plaster) and in agriculture -- called also quicklime.

For fresco we should look for lime without magnesium (causes fluorescence and weakens the plaster.

Ilia Anossov
fresco painter, sculptor
http://www.truefresco.com/workshop

>Another possible purpose to tasting the
>plaster is that sugar may
>have been added to the
>lime. For some reason sugar
>causes the lime to accept
>up 14 times more water
>- at the price of
>substantially weakening it at this
>high level. This would not
>be an issue with me
>and my home made, high
>calcite lime putty, but if
>you were ordering the "white
>gold" putty from Europe, you
>may want to check if
>it has been sugared/extended by
>tasting, but I doubt that
>any company would risk its
>reputation with this trick.

This is a good thing to now! Thanks for the advice. Here goes my stomach!!!