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Forum Name: Fresco Workshop Program
Topic ID: 19
Message ID: 17
#17, RE: Fresco painting PROBLEMS explored!!!
Posted by Ilia on 09-Jun-04 at 10:26 AM
In response to message #15
>There are SO MANY ways to do fresco - you have
>to find the way that works for you, where you
>are - that is the true history of fresco. Fall
>in love with painting fresco - not the IDEA of
>painting fresco - don't look for obstacles that
>are not really there. Are we really so vain that
>we must treat every piece we do as a 'heritage'
>piece that will be treasured, and therefore must
>be gauranteed to endure, into the next
>centuries?

Well said!

During our classes we teach the method we have used for years with great results - no detouching, no cracking, no poor paint adhesion.

student is welcome and encouraged to modify the steps and experiment later at his/her own time afterwards.
However they will always have the method that works - the one we taught.


Adding glue between the layers is not needed because if you layers did not stick by themselves that means that there is too much water in the plaster and/or the wall (panel).

(Gary, i should send you a panel prepped by student/s during the class - good luck trying to separate the layers.... the problem of shipping to canada is that your goverments hits shipper with rediculos customs bill a year later - the reason we stopped shipping lime to Canada. Why dont you fly to Baltimore MD and help us to set up the workshop there - we will have planty to discuss on August 18th - 22nd - we are starting 2-7 year freco community project in the cathedral there with initiation class this august, loggings will be provided for students ($100 - $20 per day) that is all the church wants for it's dorm fascilities!!! site will be updated with this info and we will start enrollment in a few days cost looks like to be $1549 without logging ($100 if student stays at the school dorm)

Silica - here is the theory covering some of the reasons of lesser "stickage"

silica is very hard and althow it is "angly" it's flat serfaces are classlike - slick when other sands will have irregular flat serfaces so lime will have more to "grab" on micro level.
Anyway why use it if it gives problems, whatever reason is the cause of them???? (problems in PAINTING, forget about sticking problems)
(more about silica in my thread with Gary: http://www.truefresco.com/dcforum/DCForumID1/114.html )


Here is a little about workshops forum:

if anyone asks here about why this or that happened on magnesium (dolomitic) lime or silica "inchanced" plaster - the answer is "Do not use it" for me it is like: will the regular car run on alcohol? perhaps. will it run better on petrol? yes. then why should we use alchohol to fill our gas tanks?