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Forum Name: Plaster Arts & Modern Plasters and Classic Finishes with Joe Greco
Topic ID: 4
#0, rivesto-marmorino
Posted by mr grumpy on 20-Mar-01 at 01:02 PM
has anyone had any experience with the Rivesto-marmorino product?

Thanks


#1, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Rebecca (Guest) on 16-Apr-01 at 07:30 AM
In response to message #0
I have experimented with this product? I do love the results. What are you trying to find out?

Regards,
Rebecca


#3, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by mr grumpy on 18-Apr-01 at 05:25 AM
In response to message #1
Can you tell me about coverage per sq ft, grying times, how the company is deal with and how, if you've had experience, it differs from other venetian-style plasters available? I've used both SmoothRock (an all acrylic material), Kolcaustico ( seems to be a modified lime based material), and have done sample boards using the Sinopia sold products which also seem to be modified lime based materials.

If you could send email it would be better since AOL seems to have trouble with this site,

thanks much for your help.

Ken


#4, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by mr grumpy on 18-Apr-01 at 05:26 AM
In response to message #3
Oh yeah...email address is knhpaint@aol.com

#6, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by abbywilde (Guest) on 09-Aug-01 at 10:30 PM
In response to message #3
I'm new to this site and forum. I am also trying to learn the fresco technique. I am intrested in this product. Where can I get it. Also not on this subject but I have tried to follow up on the supply information suggested on this site and cannot find out about brushes. What ones withstand the lime? Will synthetics work?

Thanks, Abby


#7, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Ilia on 10-Aug-01 at 09:31 AM
In response to message #6
>I'm new to this site and
>forum. I am also trying
>to learn the fresco technique.
>I am intrested in this
>product. Where can I get
>it. Also not on this
>subject but I have tried
>to follow up on the
>supply information suggested on this
>site and cannot find out
>about brushes. What ones withstand
>the lime? Will synthetics work?
>
>
>Thanks, Abby


Hi Abby,

You need long soft bristles and camel hair or squirrel for fine detail size 01-03 thise should be rather short. Long or larger size camels/squirrelswill not spring back so you will have hard time painting, long bristles will soften in lime and will work almost as sables in watercolor. You can experiment with Synthetics, but i think they will curl. I use traditional fresco brush set and never needed to change, unfortunately traditional fresco brushes are not sold in US (narrow market - fresco brushes are useless for other mediums) TrueFresco.com will eventually offer them through the site after planned big update of the technique section.

For the moment get youself some long filberts also cheap chinese bristle brushes work exeptionaly good(perfect soft bristles), unfortunately these are short brushes and best to be used on small panels.

ilia
PS. You should move this question (start Fresco Brushes topic) to Fresco Painting forum - some fresco artists, contributing to this forum will not find it here.

this is a sample of traditional fresco brush that I use


#2, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Carter Averbeck (Guest) on 17-Apr-01 at 04:07 PM
In response to message #0
I have used the Rivesto Marmorino products, and have found them pretty good for the most part. The product is all natural and has been fairly consistent in quality each time I have used it for various Venetian plaster techniques. (there are several techniques)It only comes in two grades of grains though, which means that some of the Venetian Plaster techniques cannot be applied in the truest sense, but in this modern era, clients who want it don't seem to care about the technique as much as the finished result. Buy a 5 gal container and play around with it.

Ciao
Carter


#5, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by mr grumpy on 18-Apr-01 at 05:31 AM
In response to message #2
. The product is all
>natural and has been fairly
>consistent in quality each time
>I have used it for
>various Venetian plaster techniques. (there
>are several techniques)It only comes
>in two grades of grains
>though, which means that some
>of the Venetian Plaster techniques
>cannot be applied in the
>truest sense, but in this
>modern era, clients who want
>it don't seem to care
>about the technique as much
>as the finished result. Buy
>a 5 gal container and
>play around with it.
>Ciao

Thanks for the post. Could you explain in more detail about the several techniques of Venetian plaster? I only have one year's worth of experience in this area and welcome the opportumnity to learn much more. how is it that only two grades of grain limit your available to achieve true venetian plaster techniques? Did you attend their workshop? Or just experiment on your own?

thanks for your help. if possible, please respond by email.

Ken
knhpaint@aol.com
>Carter



#8, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by admin on 11-Dec-01 at 11:39 AM
In response to message #5
Our studio is placing an order fo fresco supplies for our next Fresco Painting Workshop. We would like to offer you an opportunity to add your orders to this shipment.

You can order

http://www.truefresco.com/frescoshoppe

Authentic Fresco Brushes.

"These Unique Fresco brushes made of fine bristle - the only suitable material capable to withstand alkaline action of the lime are being handcrafted in Italy by dedicated craftsmen, following the centuries old tradition and technique.

Fresco Lime Putty

Lime Putty of the highest quality. The only Lime Putty we use in our studio. Lime Putty comes from the same resource (pit) is being used on major fresco restorations in Italy.

Fresco Lime Putty is shipped in air tight buckets and can be stored under the layer of water in the same bucket indefinitely. Also perfect for other types of lime plasters (Venetian stucco, marmorino, etc.)

IMPORTANT!
We need to place the total order on or before December 17th, to have it processed by our associates in Italy before the Holydays. This way it will be shipped to and arrive in the beginning of January.

Please do not delay and place your orders ASAP at

http://www.truefresco.com/frescoshoppe

We accept VISA and MasterCard

if you have questions call (310) 337 2783


#9, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by mikedagmar on 10-Jun-07 at 07:42 AM
In response to message #0
My wife and I know Mr. Hirt personaly who started the company in Europe and the product is just fantastic. we learned the trade through Mr Reimar Zerressen (Germany), a true pro in the field. I am new to the site and wish to obtain more info on where can one purchase the product and the needed tools
best regards
mike

#11, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Rodon on 24-Jul-07 at 07:11 PM
In response to message #9
To order marmorino from Carlo Hirt you can contact Michael Glickman from Marmorino supply NYC: 917-304-6339, glibcon@yahoo.com

#10, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Rodon on 24-Jul-07 at 07:07 PM
In response to message #0
Exellent material,but only the original one.There are a lot of low quality materials on the market with similar name (marmorino,nova color, veneziano....etc.)
I recomend you to go to www.rivesto.com (original manufacture in Europe) and find oficial distributors in USA. I allways order from Michael Glickman from Marmorino supply - 917-304-6339, glibcon@yahoo.com

#12, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by tori1522 on 07-Aug-08 at 02:53 PM
In response to message #10
Are you kidding me? My favorite plaster has always been Rivesto, until Rivesto's maker got cheap and switched his plaster to some cheap crap that smells like windex! Rivesto is not what it used to be!!! Just ask some of the people he sold it to like Ed Werfelman in NY. They claim they are stuck with pallets of material that is garbage and peels off the wall, yet it is labeled "Rivesto"!! Get your facts straight!!

#13, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by tori1522 on 07-Aug-08 at 02:56 PM
In response to message #12
By the way... Anyone that wants a stable, authentic Venetian Plaster contact Firenze Enterprises, in NY
3724 24th Street, Unit 211, Long Island City, NY 11101, 718.361.7734, Their products are imported from the same factory as Rivesto, except they kept theirs in good quality, and it doesn't smell like windex!!

#14, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Rodon on 06-Oct-08 at 04:38 PM
In response to message #13
It seems to me that you are just working for Firenze Enterprises.......
who lost the contract for authentic Rivesto Marmorino and now sells Nova Color materials, but still missing the glory of original Rivesto Marmorino....

#15, RE: rivesto-marmorino
Posted by Rodon on 31-Jan-09 at 07:13 PM
In response to message #14
I also recommend Venetian plaster by Fresco, Italy. Marmorino and Make up are the best option.
see what is available at: www.marmorinodepot.com