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18. "RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters"
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   Dear all,

I'm new to this group, and totally fascinated by the posts I've read. I am a professional plasterer with a strong background in earthen materials and I have recently absolutely fallen in love with lime. I am a tech geek with a good understanding of different types of limes, pozzolans and pigments.

But recently I felt very much in over my head. I am doing an interior application of a polished lime finish on a two coat application. First coat 1 : 2.5 lime to plaster sand, second coat 1 : 1 lime to marbledust. I get wonderful color saturations and a readily sealed polished surface. I won't call it tadelakt because it's not made with Morrocan lime, but that is the type of finish for which I am aiming.

Here's the problem: the base coat is spalling off the walls. I was advised by the lime manufacturer (NHL product) to install cement board (Durarock), wet it back to saturation, and apply the base coat directly over it. It adhered well for over a month, but now it is slowly detaching. My best guess is a poor chemical bond to begin with, now exacerbated by daily temperature fluctuations between 90-50 degrees F along the exterior walls. Also, the Durarock is hung 16" OC but not blocked, and still has slight movement.

So now what? I'm looking at demolishing the first installation and starting over. One contractor has suggested expanded metal mesh over the Durarock for a mechanical bond. Another recommends Plaster Weld. I am reluctantly considering adding some portland cement to the base coat, going on the like bonding to like theory. Temperature stress will continue to be an issue in the space; in addition to the two exterior walls, two walls are adjacent to a sauna.

Are there any other lime plaster contractors out there? What experiences have you had with lime renders over Duraroack? Some phots of ILia and other fresco artists show a sort of freestanding "canvas"; I wonder if this is a cement board product?

Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Cheers,
Kirsten


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 Traditional and Modern lime plasters [View All] Joe19651moderator 20-Dec-02 TOP
   RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Mitchell Henry 26-Dec-02 1
      RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters joe greco 27-Dec-02 2
   RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Roland L. Richer 05-Jun-04 3
   RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters TahoeBilly 16-Nov-04 5
      RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters adminadmin 22-Nov-04 6
          RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters willyartist 15-Apr-05 7
              RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Roger 15-Apr-05 8
              RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Gary sculptari 17-Apr-05 9
                  RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters william meyer 17-Apr-05 10
                      RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Mitchell Henry 17-Apr-05 11
                          RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters willyartist 17-Apr-05 12
                              RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Gary sculptari 17-Apr-05 13
                                  RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Gary sculptari 17-Apr-05 14
                                      RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters william meyer 17-Apr-05 15
                                          RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Roger 18-Apr-05 16
                                              RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters william meyer 18-Apr-05 17
                                     RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters kirsten 05-Jun-05 18
                                          RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Roger 05-Jun-05 19
                                          RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters adminadmin 06-Jun-05 20
                                              traditional lime over modern substrates kirsten 06-Jun-05 21
                                              RE: traditional lime over modern substrates adminadmin 06-Jun-05 22
                                              RE: traditional lime over modern substrates william meyer 10-Jul-05 23
                                              RE: traditional lime over modern substrates william meyer 10-Jul-05 24
                                              RE: traditional lime over modern substrates adminadmin 15-Jul-05 25
                                              RE: traditional lime over modern substrates kirsten 16-Jul-05 26
                                          RE: Traditional and Modern lime plasters Montana 27-Feb-06 33
   Please help: trouble with glaze over plaster maria holden 21-Jul-05 27
      RE: Please help: trouble with glaze over plaster adminadmin 24-Jul-05 28
          RE: Please help: trouble with glaze over plaster glaze/glue 14-Oct-05 31
      RE: Please help: trouble with glaze over plaster carmine b 13-Oct-05 29
          RE: Please help: trouble with glaze over plaster marmorino 14-Oct-05 30
              RE: Please help: trouble with glaze over plaster william meyer 17-Oct-05 32


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