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Conferences Fresco Painting Plaster Arts & Modern Plasters and Classic Finishes with Joe Greco Topic #3
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11. "RE: Scagliola"
In response to message #10
 
Ok! I remember now... This was explained/debated in the other topic somewhere. (besides the one you mentioned)

But here it goes again:

Dolomitic lime results in a lot of magnesium in the putty. And it is so - it smells tastes and feels slightly different, so it is not just "molecular" difference. Magnesium makes plaster to be more "plastic", but that is a choice for people who know little. Also magnesium plasters preferred for commercial plaster/stucco applications where speed is the issue, or for uncolored ornamental plasterwork.

For color magnesium is not a friend gives fluorescence spots, poor adhesion of the color layer, etc. Also magnesium has longer hydrating time. Any lime stone will produce some magnesium (high calcium lime contains upto 7% of magnesium - dolomitic has over 30%)

In the past burning of the limestone has little control over the temperature throughout the load therefore resulting quicklime was impure. Aging the lime for 10+ years in the pit was needed to properly hydrate every bit of it. Modern technologies produce more consistent burning therefor 2-4 years in the pit is sufficient.

I am not at liberty to say - professional secret, you know... (just joking).

Anyway, i am not an expert in colored plasters and my explanation applies to fresco painting where the color layer creates or can be compared with calcium saturated, bounded surface crust. When pigment is mixed into the plaster itself poor adhesion is not an issue, however you may still have fluorescence.

About frustrating - you are correct that is not exactly the word. More likely "philosophical" in the matter of: when and will I be able to keep up with postings. The site is alive and growing fast.
Have you checked our Fresco Workshop Program at
http://frescoschool.com ?
we already have international students.

we are also rearanging content into Channels to be more accessable, check Fresco Channel at:

http://www.truefresco.com/channel_fresco.html

perhaps the fact that our site is so easy to find - top ten in every search engine for any fresco related search as well as it's size make people feel that the discussion is "too public" - you do not see rock concert crowds in the public library, but there are millions of libraries and only one "fresco library" - TrueFresco.com - we are pritty much it or strive to be... So the crowds will be here - our stats: 1996 - 2000 page views per month and in 2002 - 200,000 page view per month. So people are "snooping around" we just have to make them talk. Interested to help?
Scagliola topic is wide open...

ilia

http://www.FrescoSchool.com


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Scagliola [View All] Ed 11-Mar-01 TOP
   RE: Scagliola julian 03-May-02 1
      RE: Scagliola Ed 23-May-02 2
          RE: Scagliola adminadmin 23-May-02 3
              RE: Scagliola James 13-Jul-02 4
                  RE: Scagliola Iliamoderator 16-Jul-02 5
                  RE: Scagliola Ed Micca 05-Mar-03 20
                  RE: Scagliola Marmorino 16-Apr-03 24
              RE: Scagliola Ed 27-Nov-02 8
                  RE: Scagliola Iliamoderator 27-Nov-02 9
                      RE: Scagliola Ed 27-Nov-02 10
                         RE: Scagliola Iliamoderator 27-Nov-02 11
                              RE: Scagliola Ed 29-Nov-02 12
                                  RE: Scagliola Iliamoderator 03-Dec-02 13
                                      RE: Scagliola Ed 04-Dec-02 14
                                  RE: Scagliola jvm 23-Jun-06 53
              RE: Scagliola Bernardo 27-Feb-03 17
                  RE: Scagliola adminadmin 27-Feb-03 18
                  RE: Scagliola Marmorino 28-Feb-03 19
                      RE: Scagliola Travertine 09-Sep-08 57
          RE: Scagliola Ed 10-Oct-02 7
   RE: Scagliola gazzer 07-Aug-02 6
      Please help me identify this material-- karenmkrohn 15-Feb-03 15
          RE: Please help me identify this material-- hey 21-Feb-03 16
          RE: Please help me identify this material-- Ed 12-Mar-03 21
              RE: Please help me identify this material-- karenmkrohn 12-Mar-03 22
                  RE: Please help me identify this material-- Ed 18-Mar-03 23
                      scagliola rick 11-May-03 25
                          SCRAFFITO??? rico de pico 11-May-03 26
                          RE: scagliola Marmorino 11-May-03 27
                              RE: scagliola Bernardo 11-May-03 28
                                  RE: scagliola Marmorino 23-May-03 29
                                      RE: scagliola Bernardo 23-May-03 30
                                          RE: scagliola Marmorino 24-May-03 31
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Marmorino 24-May-03 32
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Bernardo 27-May-03 33
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Marmorino 27-May-03 34
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Marmorino 28-May-03 35
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. adminadmin 28-May-03 36
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Marmorino 28-May-03 37
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Bernardo 28-May-03 38
                                              RE: scagliola add on from MArmorino. Marmorino 29-May-03 39
                          RE: scagliola Rick Lindley 21-Oct-03 43
                          RE: scagliola adminadmin 22-Oct-03 44
                              RE: scagliola JENN BRYANT 19-Nov-03 46
                          RE: scagliola JENN BRYANT 19-Nov-03 45
                          RE: scagliola paul tibbett 12-Jun-04 48
                          RE: scagliola sarah chane 16-Sep-05 51
                          RE: scagliola homespain1 14-Sep-08 58
                          RE: scagliola SCAG 24-Jan-10 59
                              RE: scagliola adminadmin 24-Jan-10 60
                  RE: Please help me identify this material-- andrea 19-Jun-03 40
                      RE: Please help me identify this material-- kidplaster 15-Apr-05 50
   RE: Scagliola Merv 26-Jul-03 41
      RE: Scagliola R.GIBBS 06-Sep-03 42
          RE: Scagliola limey 14-Mar-04 47
              RE: Scagliola courses sheamus 15-Nov-04 49
   RE: Scagliola jvm 23-Jun-06 52
      RE: Scagliola Karen 29-Oct-06 54
          RE: Scagliola Valter Cipriani 31-Dec-06 55
      Herculite Hardcoat MJTRIGG 16-Jan-07 56


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