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alain

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09-Feb-02, 04:25 AM (PST)

"appropriation"

hey im a yr10 student doing my art assesment task its on a painting which is a appropriation of vincent's bedroom and i think starry night any way im half way through it but i need a good description of what appropriation is, any help would be great:)

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Subject	Author	Message Date	ID
appropriation [View All]	alain	09-Feb-02	TOP
appropriation means...	billy-bob	24-Aug-02	1
RE: appropriation means...	Fletch	06-Sep-02	2
RE: appropriation means...	sarah	05-Nov-02	3
appropriation examples..	kate	26-Nov-02	4
RE: appropriation examples..	kaoru	10-Dec-02	5
RE: appropriation examples..	wildmagic	12-Feb-03	6
RE: appropriation means...	rols	06-Jun-03	11
RE: appropriation	dobo23	14-Mar-03	7
RE: appropriation	Rahni	21-May-03	9
RE: appropriation	carlz	22-Apr-04	24
RE: appropriation	hmmm	03-Jun-03	10
RE: appropriation	Ilia	09-Jun-03	12
RE: appropriation	georgia	25-Nov-03	21
RE: appropriation	louise	28-Aug-03	16
RE: appropriation	georgia	25-Nov-03	22
RE: appropriation	brogz	17-Jun-03	13
RE: appropriation	brogz	17-Jun-03	14
RE: appropriation	Dee	18-Jun-03	15
RE: appropriation	Imogen	28-Aug-03	17
RE: appropriation	willig	30-Aug-03	18
RE: appropriation	Deb	15-Sep-03	19
RE: appropriation	kate	05-Nov-03	20
RE: appropriation	amanda	02-Dec-03	23
RE: appropriation	lizzy	01-Jun-04	25
RE: appropriation	Lisa	15-Oct-04	26
RE: appropriation	Frederick	16-Feb-05	28
RE: appropriation	Sarah	03-Feb-05	27
RE: appropriation	laughs	31-Mar-05	32
RE: appropriation	ronnie	16-Feb-05	29
RE: appropriation	Mulungo	24-Feb-05	30
APPROPRIATION: More aggressive than allusion	Mulungo	24-Feb-05	31
RE: appropriation	laughs	31-Mar-05	33
RE: appropriation	studd	22-Apr-06	34
RE: appropriation	Tinseltown	11-Aug-06	35
RE: appropriation	kekims01	13-Nov-06	36

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billy-bob

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24-Aug-02, 06:13 AM (PST)

1. "appropriation means..."
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appropriaion means to borrow an historical artwork or image and change its context to use for another purpose or in an intersting way...textbook meaning...
im in year 10 and im doin an assignment on appropriation too, but i need to know the name of that one with van gogh's bedroom and starry night and that guy with no head....

and i dont know what it is....

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Fletch

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06-Sep-02, 08:42 PM (PST)

2. "RE: appropriation means..."
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I think you are after the painting called "The Outsider" (1988) by Gordon Bennett. It's an oil, synthetic polymer on canvas, 290 x 180 cm. Im in year 12 doing an essay about appropriation, that image is situated (among heaps others im sure) in 'ART NOW - Contemporay Art Post - 1970' It's our class set for the year. Good luck with that people.

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sarah

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05-Nov-02, 00:23 AM (PST)

3. "RE: appropriation means..."
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Hey i'm in yr 8 and have to give a speech on art appropriation and need to give an example. The Gordon Bennett work is kewl but we studied it last year and i need something new. i'm havin trouble finding another example of art appropriation. any other examples?? thanks

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kate
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26-Nov-02, 02:44 AM (PST)

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4. "appropriation examples.."
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an example of appropriation is Marcal Duchamp who used DaVinci's "Mona Lisa" and drew a moustache and beard on her face

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kaoru

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10-Dec-02, 04:55 AM (PST)

5. "RE: appropriation examples.."
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you may also like to consider the works of Yasumasa Morimura - In praticular, Criticism and the Lover as it appropriates C�zanne's work, Apples and Oranges ^^

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wildmagic

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12-Feb-03, 03:21 PM (PST)

6. "RE: appropriation examples.."
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i was wondering can anyone send me a pic of his artwork apples and oranges email it to wildmagic31@yahoo.com thanx:P

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rols

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06-Jun-03, 11:58 PM (PST)

11. "RE: appropriation means..."
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appropriation basically is a strategy that was employed by artits to challenge the notion of 'originality'. try artists such as sherrie levine, cindy sherman, imants tillers, michael johnson etc.

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dobo23
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14-Mar-03, 03:04 AM (PST)

7. "RE: appropriation"
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I am also doing a case study on the gordon bennett's artwork "the Outsider". I am in year 10. I was wondering if anybody had any ideas whether there are political messages displayed in the artwork.Is there any political messages in it?

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Rahni

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21-May-03, 06:17 PM (PST)

9. "RE: appropriation"
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There are alot of political messages in this piece...depends how far you want to go. White man is the outsider in Africa (in most countries) nad has torn the free thinking minds of the indigineous population and cultures. Colonization has left its body hand print...white man is the two headed snake...
he's made his bed and now has to lay in it.

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carlz

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22-Apr-04, 07:41 PM (PST)

24. "RE: appropriation"
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yes there is political issues in it. gordon bennett only found out he was an aboriginal wen he was older so all his works are about identity. but also about colonialism- he looks at the settlers who came to aus n killed all the aborigonals wen they came- all his works are to do with this issue:-)

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hmmm

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03-Jun-03, 04:19 AM (PST)

10. "RE: appropriation"
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ever think of looking up a dictionary and going from there???

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Ilia
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09-Jun-03, 00:51 AM (PST)

12. "RE: appropriation"
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>ever think of looking up a dictionary and going
>from there???

enlighten us hmmm

ilia

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georgia
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25-Nov-03, 02:56 AM (PST)

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21. "RE: appropriation"
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slightly rude, not much information about appropriation referring to artwork in dictionary, maybe you should form a more positive attitude to helping people rather then giving them obvious, un-needed sarcastic commments. one should maybe get a life.

Geeeeorgia

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louise

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28-Aug-03, 02:37 AM (PST)

16. "RE: appropriation"
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Rude much. Way to deter young people from being interested in and inquisitive about art.

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georgia
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25-Nov-03, 03:01 AM (PST)

22. "RE: appropriation"
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hey buddy, ever think of looking up arsehole in the dictionary?
i'm sure the meaning would be a good discription of yourself...

Geeeeorgia

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brogz
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17-Jun-03, 04:35 AM (PST)

13. "RE: appropriation"
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:7 Hey there, does anyone know a good site for infor on 'The Outsider' by Gordon Bennett, its for a yr 12 assignment so any help would be fantastic, thanx!

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brogz
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17-Jun-03, 04:36 AM (PST)

14. "RE: appropriation"
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send anything on this that you have plz to scam_artist_21@hotmail.com

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Dee

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18-Jun-03, 07:31 PM (PST)

15. "RE: appropriation"
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hey Brogz! fancy seeing you here! i was looking around for the same stuff for that wretched assignment

hehee ill cya at school then

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Imogen

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28-Aug-03, 02:42 AM (PST)

17. "RE: appropriation"
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Hi, I'm currently completing a Year 12 Art Issues Assignment, and am looking at appropriation of artworks as an Art Industry issue. I would really appreciate any input anybody might have concerning appropriation - whether or not you agree with it as a concept (in particular for use in advertising), and any links you might have to useful resources like articles, papers, images etc that are involved with the issue.

Thankyou.

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willig

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30-Aug-03, 11:11 PM (PST)

18. "RE: appropriation"
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why does Bennett use starry night in the outsider?

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Deb

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15-Sep-03, 04:35 AM (PST)

19. "RE: appropriation"
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If you are in Sydney, I strongly suggest going to the library in the Art Gallery of N.S.W. The Librarians are very helpful and everything you need is there. Failing that, there is a good book called "what is appropriation" by butler. It is australian and pretty recent and includes works by bennett and tillers etc. You could also look at allegory as this usually involves some appropriation.
good luck:)

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kate

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05-Nov-03, 00:47 AM (PST)

20. "RE: appropriation"
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appropriation is when you distort are famous painting like the outsider.It is hen you copy the famous artwork and change it little bit.

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amanda

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02-Dec-03, 04:23 AM (PST)

23. "RE: appropriation"
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hey there,
im doing a small project on gordon bennett and im wodering do u have an inlarged picture of his painting The Outsider....
if u do thanx alot:7

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lizzy

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01-Jun-04, 09:39 PM (PST)

25. "RE: appropriation"
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To take possession of another's material, often without permission, reusing it in a context which differs from its original context, most often in order to examine issues concerning originality or to reveal meaning not previously seen in the original. This is far more aggressive than allusion or quotation, it is not the same as plagiarism however. An image reused in collage is an example, but more complete are the photographs that Sherri Levine (American) made of photographs by earlier photographers.
I hope this is helpful:)

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Lisa

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15-Oct-04, 08:04 PM (PST)

26. "RE: appropriation"
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hi im in frist year uni and i'm also doing an assignment on art appropriation. i was just wondering if anyone has seen the dorito's ad using Michelangelo's creation of adam

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Frederick

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16-Feb-05, 07:44 PM (PST)

28. "RE: appropriation"
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what the hell are you talking about?

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Sarah

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03-Feb-05, 04:16 AM (PST)

27. "RE: appropriation"
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heylo
u would not believe it but iam doin an art assingment on the same artwork... it is very hard to find any information on Gordon Bennett.... neway if you wanted to no wat appropriation means, it means to use someones elses artwork in or as your own. so in the outsider gordon bennett is appropriating Van Gough's style and parts of his art work from the painting of his bedroom and stary night. hope this helps you

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laughs

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31-Mar-05, 03:19 AM (PST)

32. "RE: appropriation"
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yes gordon bennet does a lot of work about finding out about being an aboriginal but did neone think about the fact that he is also rejecting white culture that is why the two marble heads are there also for other information there is a heaps good book my art teacher showed me for gordon bennet we are also doing an assignment on appropriation in year 11;-)

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ronnie

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16-Feb-05, 07:52 PM (PST)

29. "RE: appropriation"
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why don't you ask the teacher. is there a point in having a teacher in the classroom if you don't utilise their knowledge. don't think of them as dictators, they should be seen as a resource for which information can be derived. good luck with your project.

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Mulungo

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24-Feb-05, 05:37 PM (PST)

30. "RE: appropriation"
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APPROPRIATION: More aggressive than allusion or citation, appropriation is the excision of material from one context and its reuse in another context, usually with intent to expose some unrecognized irony in the original or to undermine notions of authorial responsibility. The range of possibilites extends from simple reuse, as in collage, to Sherri Levine's rephotographed photos by Edward Weston (see aura).

From "Words of Art"... http://www.arts.ouc.bc.ca/fina/glossary/a_list.html

They have hundreds of other terms that you may find useful or confusing!

Good luck.

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Mulungo

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24-Feb-05, 05:47 PM (PST)

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31. "APPROPRIATION: More aggressive than allusion"
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They have hundreds of other terms that you may find useful or confusing!

Good luck.

<B><I>Mulung0</I></B>

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laughs

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31-Mar-05, 03:30 AM (PST)

33. "RE: appropriation"
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if ne =one wants to kno how to answer this sue post modern frame for those in year7-10 dont kno ask teacher coupla good questions i found for this gordon bennett thing was What does all this symbolise? What questions is Gordon Bennett bringing up in this work? Can you comment on some other symbolic references not previously mentioned?

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studd

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22-Apr-06, 09:58 PM (PST)

34. "RE: appropriation"
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appropriation: basically in art refers to borrowing concepts, styles, etc, and applying them to your own work. appropriated works can be directly copied, slightly modified, or even works influenced by those of another artist (ie completely different subject painted in the same style, or similar subject painted in a different style) examples of appropriation Pieter Brueghel's works, very similar in style and subject to those of Hieronymus Bosch.

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Tinseltown

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11-Aug-06, 01:35 AM (PST)

35. "RE: appropriation"
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Question...Isn't appropriation also termed "Ready-Made Art"?

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kekims01

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13-Nov-06, 07:45 PM (PST)

36. "RE: appropriation"
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appropriation is when an artist combines basic medium with another medium of another art form and keeps the basic medium clearly dominant

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