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Forum Name: Fresco Painting (original forum)
Topic ID: 45
Message ID: 15
#15, RE: on whether it is necessary to add cement to the lime and sand mix on the rough coat
Posted by Ilia on 07-Dec-00 at 01:47 AM
In response to message #12
Hi Gary!

When I started building this site (http://www.truefresco.com)
4 years ago, the idea was The Modern Fresco - technique, of cause the traditional, or better to say "Painting done on freshly laid wet lime plaster with pigments dissolved in lime water. As both dry they become completely integrated - a chemical reaction occurs in which calcium carbonate is formed as a result of carbon dioxide from the air combining with the calcium hydrate in the wet lime plaster". Any other way and it would not be a fresco.

Since than the idea did not change much if at all.

>I do have a
>good idea as to what
>people expect to see when
>they hear the word "fresco"
>- and they are not
>seeing on this website now.
>

I do not know what exactly do you mean by that. I think that, unfortunately, the majority of people do not think anything - they just do not know what the heck it means. Some people confuse fresco with mural some with the dinner.
If you meant that people think about the church and expect to see saints and stuff (don't get me wrong I am a Christian) - I conceder this a major setback, because - second thought would be old, antique therefore a thing of the past! I would be happier if people would expect to see Rivera, Orozco or Lucia Wiley.
If someone needs to see or copy the image of the classic fresco there are plenty of books written about it and images there are of far better quality then on the Internet.
We are here to "write a book" about the Modern Fresco and you, as I can see, are doing a splendid job!!! "Two thumbs up!"

OK ilia, enough with the "Propaganda" (talking to myself).

I think that to serve your idea of creating the "download section" we should look into our own resources - our own cartoons and frescoes, we can compliment them with the instructions and brief how-to. And as - your own words - "this forum matures" we will have a good collection and no copyright issues.

In regard to classic fresco I do agree with you that we should have a "reference gallery" in the Cafe. We have forum entitled "History of the Buon Fresco" created just for that. I already started a topic there, perhaps you've seen it.
A good gallery of images in it will be the thing to do and I will spend some time putting it together, however I want to use images from actual frescoes not of prints of a prints. This may be a copyright issue and I am planning to consult a museum on that. Luckily we got a great Thanksgiving present from the Museum of New Mexico - check this link:
http://museumeducation.org/curricula_activity_frescoes.html

If this as easy as you think (copyright) than it should be simple - just link your message to the image. Sample below:

This is a fresco - "Fortune Teller" (by me) 1996.

http(space)://

(space) - i stuck this into the code to stop it from bringing the image. If you remove the (space) than the image, just like the one above will show.
This image is on this site, but it could be on any other site on the Net.
This way we all can contribute - link the message to the imge you like and post.

Downloading is easy - just copy and paste - point the cursor on the image click the right mouse button, select and click copy. Open any folder on your hard drive, point cursor over the list of files in the folder window, click the right mouse button, select paste and click. You are done file is in. Try this with the image above.

I think that I have to write letters to the museums for the permission to use classic fresco images from their collection - to each museum separate. Can you help me with that - my English at times is, lets say confusing?


ilia anossov
http://www.truefresco.com/anossov