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Forum Name: Plaster Arts & Modern Plasters and Classic Finishes with Joe Greco
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#0, plaster ready to paint
Posted by mathieu on 07-Jan-02 at 01:53 AM
I've been reading things about the coat of plaster "absorbing" the pigments in different ways at different times of the painting process.
My own experience alternates between frustration and satisfactory moments, sometimes my plaster is very "hungry" and absorbs the color rapidly, sometimes everything remains at the surface and my work gets sloppy, I often have to wash it and start again.
I have the feeling that the reel fresco is achieved when the pigment is locked behind the layer of dry lime, when you cannot see traces of brush strokes, when your paint appears to be like a mineral. I can reach that point only if I "squeeze" my painting in the plaster at the end of the work session, I sometimes damage details of my work that way, but the mineral shinny aspect looks much better, and seems to be less fragile to rubbing..
I would like to be able to find a way to apply my pigments on the plaster that would allow me to not squeeze my work in the plaster, to be able to keep the exact state of my art in all its details, to also have sometimes a smoother finish.
How are you supposed to apply those pigments? Dry brush? (cenninni mentions a brush squeezed between the fingers to get rid of the excedents of water) Are you supposed to allow a big amount of time in between 2 layers of pigments? When the fresco is finished, is it ok to see pigments at the surface of the plaster or does it have to look like(pigments+plaster)it is the same element?
I went to see the frescoes of jean charlot at the university of hawaii, the sand and the pigments are incredibly compacted in one single element, no brush strokes, no "materiality" of the pigments, if you look very close you only see teinted grains of sand.
I guess in that case carbonatation really protects the pigments, would it be the same if the colors would appear more at the surface as independant from plaster? Would they be locked by carbonatation anyways?
Ilia I thanks you once again for your your amazingly precise and helpfull answers. I found some very good and very cheap tuff here, it is already mixed with the lime and ready to go.
Mathieu.