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Forum Name: The Bar Stool... Just Art!
Topic ID: 12
#0, the russian art
Posted by yaw on 27-Dec-00 at 04:48 PM
Hello,
My name is Alexey and I'm working on the web-site representing the russian art galery. Those artist listed in there are of different techniques and motivations and the works are composed to be in balance. I would appreciate if anyone can say whether all of them are indeed have anything in common, or any comments at all.
http://www.thoserussians.com

Best regards


#1, RE: the russian art
Posted by Ilia on 31-Dec-00 at 00:25 AM
In response to message #0
Hey, welcome!

good site, i would suggest to develope some "history" for the artists represented - sketches, phrases, photos. Make the artists a little more "real". It is good to put "the best foot forward", but it is way to many of "those best feet" on the net but not enough "artist studio - the way it is" presentations
You do represent a small group of selected artists and have a rare opportunity to show them "alive"

just an opinion...


#2, RE: the russian art
Posted by Alexey (Guest) on 02-Mar-01 at 04:11 PM
In response to message #1
Thanks for you feedback,
I know and this is a problem that we present the artworks on the way that is normal for selling souvenirs... But the things may change if only we have no urgency achieve immediate sales, thus harming the image by the greater and greater discounts. I experienced seeing plenty of the galleries online and it looks like the prominent way is to have the well-known artist included along... How do we promote our authors to that level? There will be the exhibition of Lev Bogomoletz in Eurasia centre in Washington DC on 27 April. This is an avhievment of the painter of the same level as one of those we exhibit with, Boris Spornikov (basing of their gradation in the former soviet time). So where is the solution?

Thank you once again for expressing opinion...


#4, RE: the russian art
Posted by Ilia on 05-Mar-01 at 12:18 PM
In response to message #2
>Thanks for you feedback,
>I know and this is a
>problem that we present the
>artworks on the way that
>is normal for selling souvenirs...

Not at all! Your site shows a potential for different and promising on-line gallery! and since the site is in development you have a chance to keep it this way. My suggestion was to "show the artist behind the work" implement this into your site's interface as a backbone of the future development -- aesthetically and technically (scripts). Present the artists and their bios, etc in a different way - make the visitor feel like they have spent time with the artist - had dinner, played a game, etc. Make the visitor feel like they knew the artist all along.

>But the things may change
>if only we have no
>urgency achieve immediate sales, thus
>harming the image by the
>greater and greater discounts.

Looking forward to see your development.


How do we
>promote our authors to that
>level? There will be the
>exhibition of Lev Bogomoletz in
>Eurasia centre in Washington DC
>on 27 April. This is
>an achievement of the painter
>of the same level as
>one of those we exhibit
>with, Boris Spornikov (basing of
>their gradation in the former
>soviet time). So where is
>the solution?

This is a tough one! In Soviet Russia most of the art was political and the selection of the leading artists happened to reflect that. Political correctness of the artist and art was the main reference. This provided a little space for variations in style and presentation consequently it was easier to promote the artist. Artists with clear talent and academic skills would shine in the official limelight as long as they would comply with the "political code". There was one style (with variations) and Government was forcing it onto everyone being the ultimate art dealer with offers that no one could refuse.

Here, in the West, the situation is quite the opposite - Artists success is measured by the number of sales and publicity. Politics here dictate the artist through the money.

All the efforts that went into maintaining the political correctness and "OBKOM", "GORKOM", "PARTKOM" (abbreviations for party offices in soviet Russia) should be focused on achieving public exposure for the artists which would lead to sales and recognition.

I only expressed my thoughts about ranks and "chairs" in the domain of the "official" (showcased in the museums and other public venues) art answering the direct question.


>I experienced seeing plenty of the
>galleries online and it looks
>like the prominent way is
>to have the well-known artist
>included along...
>Thank you once again for expressing
>opinion...

This definitely helps with "clicks" - people like heroes, however quality of the art represented and professionalism do the "closing". Prominent artist also means dramatically larger numbers in commissions from each piece of art. These artists are hard to get - it might be more efficient and definitely more honorable to develop one of your own.

Ilia Anossov
fresco painter, sculptor


#3, RE: the russian art
Posted by Alexey (Guest) on 02-Mar-01 at 05:10 PM
In response to message #1
Hello Ilia,

I think you anyhow will be first to see this post...You saw the site of http://ThoseRussians.com may you be interested in seeing the full CD catalogue? I can send it to the postal address of yours. We currently experiencing some problems, but as soon they are through the site will change in the more "artistic" manner.

regards


#5, RE: the russian art
Posted by Ilia on 05-Mar-01 at 12:22 PM
In response to message #3
Hi Alex!
I would love to receive the CD, please mail it to the address listed at http://www.truefresco.com/index1.html

Address the envelope to Ilia Anossov

Ilia


#6, RE: the russian art
Posted by Alex (Guest) on 20-Apr-01 at 05:50 AM
In response to message #5
Dear Ilia,

Two weeks ago I sent the CD catalogue we were talking about, sorry for delay but I was waiting for the new issue. Have you received it already?

I am also amazed by the quick development of your site, which to my sence is becoming another powerfull art resource... I have read the advertisements that your webmasters are looking for help elsewhere in building up and promoting TrueFresco gallery.
In fact, ThoseRussians.com art gallery follows similar way of development in the Net. I think we both might benefit from the collaboration, may be start from exchanging traffic through the banner ads of through the web ring. One of our artists, Elena Samoylik, is working as easel painter and by the way I plan to use your free hosting service to place her personal page.

Just if you are interested - I can give the e-mails of the owner of ThoseRussians.com:
ivan@thoserussians.com
ivan@davidchuk.com

All the best and good luck,

Alexey

http://ThoseRussians.com
yawa33@hotmail.com