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Forum Name: Fresco Painting (original forum)
Topic ID: 29
#0, Good Intro to Fresco Painting
Posted by John on 21-Sep-00 at 03:30 PM
I feel honored that I have the pleasure of posting the inaugural message in this forum. This is going to be a great forum and site for everything fresco so lets start posting guys and gals. If you are new to fresco painting I would like to recommend a site that might help you get started:

http://www.pbs.org/fresco/hist.html#top

You can't go wrong with PBS (at least in my opinion) and in this case I believe they do a good job of providing a brief history of fresco painting and provide a nice timeline. Enjoy and once again lets get posting!


John


#1, This will be a Great Forum
Posted by Gary sculptari on 23-Sep-00 at 09:44 AM
In response to message #0
I don't know if this a special hosting software, or what, but I love this forum format. It is so much easier and fun than Egroups. Another forum at Artcalendar will give you an idea what this forum will lokk like once it matures.

I am still learning fresco. I have the frames, the putty, etc., I was waiting to buy a bunch of pigments from Kremer/Sinopia. I then bought a bunch. I am especially happy with Ultramarine Blue stabilised for fresco. I am unhappy that I bought genuine french ochre, golden, and found it to be exactly the same as Davis colors for cement (at $5 for a 3 lb bag!) I think I will use more Davis colors, the only trouble is they use their own names rather than traditional artist names.

I am particularly interested in Mexican Muralists, tropical themes, and a medium term goal for me is to establish a small studio in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. This would be in conjunction with a small factory making tourist items and mosaic reproductions. Plaster seems to come alive in the sun, and fresco is the nutrient to make it bloom.


#3, RE: This will be a Great Forum
Posted by Heidi - Faux Academy on 24-Sep-00 at 02:12 AM
In response to message #1
Hi there,

I am thrilled that I found you. I started to get intersted in Fresco many moons ago. Nowdays The word "Fresco" is used by the faux finishing industry for whatever looks old. Quite frankly I resent that. LOL especially that some of the teacher can't tell you what a "true fresco" is and means. 3 years ago I took 12 decorative artist to Nice. We took a class from an goverment approved teacher. I loved every minute of it. Since years I have booked teachers from Europe to teach Fresco here at the academy. I always had to cancel the workshop. I was not aware of any fresco teachers here in the US. Thank you Lord for the "PC" Alas internet makes it possible. So I am hoping to find help and teachers to teach fresco here in the U.S. I Any suggestion and help would be greatly appreciated

Happy Painting

Heidi
www.fauxacademy.com


#4, RE: This will be a Great Forum
Posted by Ilia on 24-Sep-00 at 02:48 PM
In response to message #3
LAST EDITED ON 24-Sep-00 AT 02:52 PM (GMT)

Dear Heidi!

You did come to the right place, next two years of my life I am planning to spend teaching Fresco Workshops. The goal of our new Nationwide Fresco Painting Workshop in Your Town program is to see frescoes being painted in every town!

Our workshop offers the indepth itroduction into the Buon (true) Fresco painting and Fresco plastering techniques, Best in Class Awards, Internet presentation for the students and organizers, and the copy of video tape that will be taken during the workshop.

For the detailed information about the Fresco Painting Workshop in Your Town program, please see the official workshop pages at

http://www.truefresco.com/workshop

Additional questions about the fresco workshop should be posted in the Fresco Painting Workshop conference (accessible from the main lobby or use the pull down menu at the bottom of this page).

Ilia Anossov.

PS. Heidi, it was a pleasure talking to you in real-time!


To learn more about the real-time communication feature from "Human Click", located at the bottom of every page in this site go to the Announsements forum in the "Suggestions and Feedback" conference. Look for thread titled - "Talk with Ilia Anossov" or click the link below.
http://www.truefresco.com/dcforum/DCForumID36/5.html#

To use this feature right away, click the icon on the bottom that says "Questions? Click for live help". If the icon reads something other than that it means that I am not available at the moment, but you can still click it and email to me.


#5, RE: This will be a Great Forum
Posted by Carter Averbeck on 26-Sep-00 at 09:18 AM
In response to message #3
I am excited as well Heidi,

These traveling workshops Ilia is providing will be of excellent value to anyone who attends. I also have been doing fresco for a number of years, mainly in secco fresco. I am one of the workshop organizers, and being able to be a part of this is fantastic. Tell all your friends and students about it!


#6, RE: This will be a Great Forum
Posted by Carter Averbeck on 26-Sep-00 at 09:22 AM
In response to message #1
Hi Gary,

Where can I get the pigments you are talking about? Currently I get mine from Le Trois Matons, and have been happy with them. However I would like to find other sources and see the differences. Anyone who can help me with this would be great!

Thanks
Ciao
Carter Averbeck
www.TrompeArt.com


#8, RE: This will be a Great Forum
Posted by Ilia on 26-Sep-00 at 02:50 PM
In response to message #1

I am unhappy
>that I bought genuine french
>ochre, golden, and found it
>to be exactly the same
>as Davis colors for cement
>(at $5 for a 3
>lb bag!) I think I
>will use more Davis colors,
>the only trouble is they
>use their own names rather
>than traditional artist names.


You should ask the manufacturer for the technical names and compare the two. I am sure if Michelangelo would have had the chance he would go for $5 rather than $500 and he perhaps did -
Yellow Ochre is Yellow Ochre regardless who sells it Kremer, Masonry yard or me:P. I've heard that the pope was very tight.
You will have to clean it though, get rid of rocks, dibree, etc.
It will also take a lot more grinding to get the color to work.
But it does not mean that every art store will sell you proper pigments, certain colors they do not carry anymore altogether.
I know about a fresco painter, Byzantine style - father Sergei, he has his favorite color called "green" (green was all that was written on the bin in masonry yard). I have my favorite blue, from the "same bin" (from a bag that looked like a bin and read blue to be exact), both of us do not want to think about what each of us is going to do when the stash runs out. Green has already been sent to Cyprus to be examined, blue is soon to follow. I was promised the sample of this green as soon as I mail the sample of my blue.

Ilia


#10, RE: This will be a Great Forum
Posted by bottaro on 28-Oct-00 at 08:00 PM
In response to message #1
hi guys, believe it or not but affresco has hit the town downunder.aussi ,aussi ,aussi ohi ohi ohi nice site

#2, RE: Good Intro to Fresco Painting
Posted by admin on 23-Sep-00 at 03:12 PM
In response to message #0
Finally PBS made it's way into our site's pages. I guess it is good. I would like to suggest a few other resources to get an idea about the "al fresco" painting process.

Brief and illustrated step-by-step demonstration about painting of the small fresco panel.

http://www.truefresco.com/technique.html

Detailed "slide show" from the creation of the Albuquerque Fresco (over 400 sq. feet). Painted in 15 giornatas.

http://www.truefresco.com/albuquerque_show.html


#7, RE: Good Intro to Fresco Painting
Posted by Ilia on 26-Sep-00 at 02:07 PM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON 26-Sep-00 AT 02:19 PM (GMT)

>I feel honored that I have
>the pleasure of posting the
>inaugural message in this forum.
>This is going to be
>a great forum and site
>for everything fresco so lets
>start posting guys and gals.

Hi John! Thank You for starting up the first discussion in the Cafe al Fresco. We had a little chat and you told me that you followed the link from DCScripts.com. I assume that you have general (not professional) interest in fresco art. It is important for me to know how did you learn about the fresco?

Not many people have seen this PBS documentary about Mark Balma even less would know about the website . I have been on-line with my site for about 4 years and watched the interest in fresco climbing up from 1-12 visitors a week to up to 100 unique visitors to the main page at some days, with 45,000 overall hits last month. Yes, site became bigger (over 350 pages) and more interesting, but this would mean nothing if there will be no interest in fresco itself.

I am very interested to learn what do you think about fresco and how much do people in your community (cant find a better word) know about fresco, as well as what place does art (in general) have in their life?

I know this is a "bold" question, but it is normal and essential for the fresco painter. All of us (fresco artists and enthusiasts) had come to fresco as to a conclusion in the search for the ultimate challenge in art, so as did the artists and their patrons before us in over 30,000 years of the fresco history. Did you follow the same path?

You might say "Wow! all I did is posted a link!", but at times when a lot of people having difficulty remembering which town they live in (see "Jay walk" with J. Leno) - you know too much!

I would love to see the site you are building, where is the link?

Ilia:9


#9, RE: Good Intro to Fresco Painting
Posted by Rebecca on 29-Sep-00 at 07:33 PM
In response to message #7
WOW- what a wonderful place Iila. I am passionate about fresco and people understanding the art. And I am a purist when it comes to techniques. I posted to the mystique thread my feelings, so I won't repeat here. So nice to see Heidi (hope all is well) and others who share the passion. Let's share and come together for a workshop. I am planning to host one is Atlanta in 2001.

Best regards,
Rebecca E. Parsons


#11, RE: Good Intro to Fresco Painting
Posted by bottaro on 28-Oct-00 at 08:23 PM
In response to message #0
can u get the materials book by cennini over there, thanx johno

#12, RE: Good Intro to Fresco Painting
Posted by mr grumpy on 25-Mar-01 at 02:42 PM
In response to message #0

>http://www.pbs.org/fresco/hist.html#top


I'm wondering if anyone has seen the video on the mark balma fresco?

Also, Sinopia sells a fresco video. has anyone viewed this one?

thanks.

ken