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#0, combining sculpturing with painting
Posted by ullip on 22-Nov-00 at 03:59 AM
LAST EDITED ON 22-Nov-00 AT 04:05 AM (PST)

LAST EDITED ON 22-Nov-00 AT 04:03 AM (PST)

hi everyone!
first of all i'd like to congratulate to this overwhelming
site - no gossiping and full of real information!
originally being a 'picture-maker', i started sculpturing
this year (first with soap stones...) and at the moment i'm
working on a big white carrara marmor block which i took
with me from the toscana. from the beginning i thought of
colouring this stone - purists please forgive me! - and i
think i should put this question here (it fits somehow):
has anyone ever coloured a stone sculpture? which sort of
colour would you suggest?
my site...


#1, RE: combining sculpturing with painting
Posted by Gary sculptari on 22-Nov-00 at 01:17 PM
In response to message #0

You are a lucky dog Ullip!
For me to get a piece of marble like that would cost a fortune. We only have granite, jade, and other hardrock in my area, I would love to try more stone carving. Now I carve/model in a lime putty/marble dust/white cement mix.

To the point. Weren't all sculptures painted in Greek and Roman times? I read this somewhere. They were painted to look realistic. By the time of the renaissance, the paint had all worn off, and this look became the norm.

The art school crowd will most likely tell you that painting a sculpture interferes with the play of shadows, and that unlike a painting, a sculpture must be viewed from all angles. A painter is able to include perspective because he/she knows the angle that will be viewed. No perspective/shadowing could be used in a sculpture so certain views would be very flat if the piece is painted. A relief panel is a whole different situation.


#2, RE: combining sculpturing with painting
Posted by ullip on 22-Nov-00 at 01:56 PM
In response to message #1
LAST EDITED ON 22-Nov-00 AT 01:59 PM (PST)

thanx for answering, gary!
yes, i heard about these opinions, too - as well as from the
other side (the painter's opinion): you can't walk around a
painting... in that case i think that 180 degrees are at least
half a circle, and i've seen works of the renaissance, in which
famous painters played with that fact and painted details you
only can detect if you look from very aside of it.
perhaps 'colouring' sculptures is a better word for what i mean.
that includes the possibility of variing the intensity of the
color (like much color in the trays and less on the vaults) to
avoid this flatness effect.
but there's still the main question left: WHICH SORT OF COLOR
is the most appropiate for stone-colouring?
ulli, the lucky dog


#3, RE: combining sculpturing with painting
Posted by Gary sculptari on 22-Nov-00 at 09:54 PM
In response to message #2
Ullip, a fellow experimenter.

Two avenues i am exploring, is raised relief fresco, particularly tropical type leaves and flowers. Another is the technique of scagliola, do a websearch to see some examples. This is high quality fake marble, which can be built up or cast. There are many examples in U.S.A and Italy. You can control the veining and coloration, making it very suitable for architecture and sculpture.

As far as colouring real marble, it will seem unusual at first, but I would pick colours which do not occur in marble - such as iridescents, metallics, luminescent. Do you know about www.kremer-pigmente.de? I also have some German luminescents which are very exciting, they glow in the dark for hours, available in yellow, green (the high performance ones) and also deep blue and rich red. I am casting clear resin mosaics, which have been backed with the luminescents, the effect at night is beautiful and subtle.

The idea is comparable to taking a beautiful natural product, such as a beautiful woman, and adding accents, in much the way she might add makeup, to accentuate certain features, etc. It can be grossly overdone or barely noticeable- either way unforgettable.